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Post by GeorgeD on 19 Feb 2006, 22:22

I will just do it using the watch on my wrist. I will note my finish time when I stop, write on my sweat soaked piece of paper, set the monitor, all the time trying to suck in some oxygen.

I have no doubt I will start the odd interval a couple of seconds early and some a couple of seconds late BUT they will all be done to the best of my ability and honestly.

If all our team do this then any variations AS A TEAM are going to be averaged out and minimal. Given that this is a TEAM event or so I thought and that we race as a team and not individuals then that is good enough for me and I hope others.

For those who the CT(team)C has become an 'individuals' competition then maybe they need another competition.

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Post by Rocket Roy on 19 Feb 2006, 22:34

I enjoyed the rugby test last time I did it, just over 10 mins if I remember right (probably not :lol: )

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Post by Sir P on 19 Feb 2006, 22:34

Hang on a minute, it is the challenge that has made people make the decision that they don’t want to play.
It is 2 challenges, one for people with PM2’s and one Challenge for people with PM3’s.

Saying that, I can’t see that a whole team will row it using PM3’s, some members will row it on PM2’s so in a way it sorts it’s self out.
It will be a mixture of PM2’s & PM3’s for each team, so no 1 team would again a big advantage on this challenge by all team members rowing it using a PM3.

That was me trying to be positive about it. :wink:

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Post by little weed on 19 Feb 2006, 22:37

the rules are nearly sorted out.

total time (rather than average split) will be the entry statistic.

pm2 users may find it more convenient to record their split time for each interval as roy's online calculator is set up to accept the data this way round - it then produces a total time.

anyway, all this will become clear with the rules in a day or two.

sir p - if you read my previous comments a bit more carefully, you will see that i was initially responding to matt's concern for the popularity of the ctc, whilst at the same time saying he wouldn't do the march challenge. it seemed a contradictory to me, which is what i was pointing out.

do we really need everybody who has been involved with the ctc so far to issue a statement on whether they will take part in the rugby test, or not take part, or do it if their team needs them? just do it, or don't. it's not THAT interesting. and it IS destructive to suggest that you will not, or may not, take part. it casts a negative air over this challenge.

i have been nothing other than supportive of the ctc from the outset. look, i even have a link to it in my signature.

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Post by Sir P on 19 Feb 2006, 22:49

Sorry Miss, shall I go and stand in the corner with my hands on my head :wink:

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Post by little weed on 19 Feb 2006, 22:57

alright then. and i'll get my cane shall i?! :twisted:
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Post by Sir P on 19 Feb 2006, 22:59

little weed wrote:alright then. and i'll get my cane shall i?! :twisted:
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:shock: :shock: yes please :D

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Post by little weed on 19 Feb 2006, 23:00

:lol:
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Post by Jef. on 20 Feb 2006, 00:16

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Post by c on 20 Feb 2006, 11:24

Pirate interesting comments about mixed use of PM2s and PM3s from each team entred.

Darin - Go for total time as the measure for the challenge, i mentioned ave as you normally list that as well.
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Post by hjs on 20 Feb 2006, 12:00

Sir Pirate wrote:Hang on a minute, it is the challenge that has made people make the decision that they don’t want to play.
It is 2 challenges, one for people with PM2’s and one Challenge for people with PM3’s.

Saying that, I can’t see that a whole team will row it using PM3’s, some members will row it on PM2’s so in a way it sorts it’s self out.
It will be a mixture of PM2’s & PM3’s for each team, so no 1 team would again a big advantage on this challenge by all team members rowing it using a PM3.

That was me trying to be positive about it. :wink:

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I don't think it's not such a problem Sir P,

Most people who normaly row on their own pm2 can for this time use an other erg. I think most people do have a pm3 which they can use in the neighberhood. (friends, enz).

And about the writing down yourself, ask some else to do that for you. and the same goes for the timing.

Although is wouldn,t be my choise either this ctc it can be done.

I think I myself will do a caped one rate 24 :D . Sprinting doesn't go in my scedule this time off the year.
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Post by MicroMonkey on 20 Feb 2006, 14:20

I'll be using my PM2 and do them with a stopwatch the same as I always do my pyramid sessions.

Can't see what the problem is, surely people aren't suggesting that 2 secs more (or less) rest is going to make any difference to the results? how much is a couple of seconds rest worth for crying out loud!

Lighten up people, as said this is for fun, I'll be doing it and if anyone wants to post a quibble about how I may have done it just imagine a two fingered reply while your typing! :twisted:
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Post by Sir P on 20 Feb 2006, 14:29

Monkey. The challenge is more hassle for PM2 users than PM3 users, therefore one set of users are at a disadvantage; this does not make the challenge an equal one. This has nothing to do with the challenge being “fun”. If you set a challenge then it must seem to be equal to all parties that are taking part in it.

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Post by Daren on 20 Feb 2006, 14:43

Sir Pirate wrote:Monkey. The challenge is more hassle for PM2 users than PM3 users, therefore one set of users are at a disadvantage; this does not make the challenge an equal one. This has nothing to do with the challenge being “fun”. If you set a challenge then it must seem to be equal to all parties that are taking part in it.


Didn't stop us having an "r20" challenge that could be creatively interpreted and therefore not actually equal. I don't think "hassle" equates to much of a disadvantage in the Rugby Test, in reality.
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Post by Sir P on 20 Feb 2006, 14:48

With the 30r20 you had the choice to perform it at 600 strokes with a PM2 or a PM3, some people chose to row it that way, it did not matter what monitor you had. With the Rugby Test you don’t have a choice, if you have the PM2 you are at a disadvantage, this is the only challenge so far that this has happened.

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