Latest posts from topic “The CTC Thread”

Latest posts from topic “The CTC Thread” Latest posts from topic “The CTC Thread” on “Concept2”. http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9964 Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:39:10 +0100 roadrunner Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:03:57 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525448#p525448 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525448#p525448 Re: The CTC Thread RR]]> Butch91 Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:23:39 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525436#p525436 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525436#p525436 Re: The CTC Thread

roadrunner wrote:

Butch91 wrote:
roadrunner wrote:10 x 1min/1rec ave 1:39.2 stung a bit by the finish!
RR

3024 meters?

3023 actually, didn't want you to think I was cheating.
RR (54yo and 73kg)

darn those decimal places]]> roadrunner Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:08:15 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525434#p525434 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525434#p525434 Re: The CTC Thread

Butch91 wrote:

roadrunner wrote:10 x 1min/1rec ave 1:39.2 stung a bit by the finish!
RR

3024 meters?

3023 actually, didn't want you to think I was cheating.
RR (54yo and 73kg)]]> rote87_joek Fri, 03 Sep 2010 07:01:41 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525430#p525430 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525430#p525430 Re: The CTC Thread

joe80 wrote:

So it is floating boats five months in a row to be allowed to select a challenge as a new team or is it some kind of two step function ?

/Joek rote87

Hi Rote 87,

My view, which may or may not be that of the forum, is that new teams should be encouraged and get a choice early in their participation in the CTC. If you had to wait your turn, starting at the first month of floating a boat, it would be something like two years before the opportunity to set a challenge would arise.

Having participated for three months, you may set the challenge in December but, in fairness to the established teams, are expected to show your commitment to the CTC by continuing to produce full boats in both September and October.

Earlier this year, the University of Chicago launched a boat for three consecutive months and were awarded a challenge. After that they did not produce a single entry so the right to set the challenge was withdrawn.

We wish to encourage new teams and, at the same time, recognize the efforts of those who compete every month.

I hope this answers your question.

Regards,

Joe

Ok.
It was only that I thought it was 3 months instead of 5 months in a row.
I think it is very generous to offer new teams the opportunity to select a challenge so early.

Thanks to all of you who makes this challenge possible.

/Joek rote 87]]> joe80 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:17:49 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525427#p525427 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525427#p525427 Re: The CTC Thread

So it is floating boats five months in a row to be allowed to select a challenge as a new team or is it some kind of two step function ?

/Joek rote87

joe80 wrote:

joe80 - Updated September 1 2010 wrote:
November Challenge
We need to give each team the opportunity to select a challenge and, at the same time, reward teams for participation.

The simple formula is to add the number of months since a team's last challenge to the number of boats they have turned out during the month in which they win the right to select the piece. The results from August will be used to select November's challenger. No doubt, someone will put this right if I've counted wrongly.

First Column: Months from previous challenge, counting back from November '10
Second Column: Boats floated in August

19 + 06 = 25 - Rowpro Rowers
22 + 01 = 23 - Taff Attack Racing
21 + 02 = 23 - DLC Bromsgrove
13 + 08 = 21 - Free Spirits
17 + 01 = 18 - Scotland The Wave
16 + 01 = 17 - AEGON
15 + 01 = 16 - Independent
07 + 07 = 14 - Sub7
11 + 01 = 12 - Empty The Tanks
05 + 07 = 12 - Forum Flyers
10 + 01 = 11 - Paddypower
09 + 01 = 10 - Banana Boat
06 + 01 = 07 - ERG
03 + 02 = 05 - Team Oarsome
02 + 02 = 04 - MAD
01 + 02 = 03 - Age Without Limits
32 + 00 = 32 - Old Wrecks*
24 + 00 = 24 - Air Products*
20 + 00 = 20 - RAF Rowers*
08 + 00 = 07 - Million Meter Vikings*
04 + 00 = 04 - Eh! Team*

* Teams may not select a challenge unless they have participated during that particular month.

Teams that have not participated recently (e.g. Bexhill, Shawbury) are not included.

For teams on equal points, the one with the longest gap to the previous challenge has been given precedence.

New teams e.g Rote 87 C2TweetCrew will be allowed to select a challenge once they have floated a boat during three consecutive months.

Rote 87 qualify and may select the December challenge provided the team launches at least one boat during September and October

November's Challengers - RowPro Rowers

CTC Challenges

SEP The MAD Team - 10x1' r1'

OCT Age Without Limits - To be announced

NOV RowPro Rowers - To be announced

DEC Rote 87 - To be announced (provisional)

Congratulations to Team Oarsome for winning the August Challenge. It's becoming something of a habit

Regards,

Joe

So it is floating boats five months in a row to be allowed to select a challenge as a new team or is it some kind of two step function ?

/Joek rote87]]> Butch91 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:15:52 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525412#p525412 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525412#p525412 Re: The CTC Thread Butch91 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:37:24 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525404#p525404 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525404#p525404 Re: The CTC Thread

hjs wrote:

Butch91 wrote:
roadrunner wrote:10 x 1min/1rec ave 1:39.2 stung a bit by the finish!
RR

3024 meters?

yes and he is "old" ;-)

and below 75 kg so you should eat him hahahaha

]]> hjs Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:34:13 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525403#p525403 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525403#p525403 Re: The CTC Thread

Butch91 wrote:

roadrunner wrote:10 x 1min/1rec ave 1:39.2 stung a bit by the finish!
RR

3024 meters?

yes and he is "old" ;-)

and below 75 kg so you should eat him hahahaha]]> Butch91 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:32:40 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525401#p525401 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525401#p525401 Re: The CTC Thread

roadrunner wrote:10 x 1min/1rec ave 1:39.2 stung a bit by the finish!
RR

3024 meters?]]> roadrunner Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:05:03 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525398#p525398 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525398#p525398 Re: The CTC Thread RR]]> Butch91 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:32:46 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525369#p525369 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525369#p525369 Re: The CTC Thread

Citroen wrote:

Butch91 wrote:Just wondering what a good distance per minute for the Sep challenge would average out at? 300m?

http://c2ctc.com/index.php?c_id=42 has the results from last time. 2800m (280m/min) is a realistic target.

theres the gauntlet i need - going to sweat blood tonight :-D

]]> Citroen Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:46:18 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525346#p525346 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525346#p525346 Re: The CTC Thread

Butch91 wrote:Just wondering what a good distance per minute for the Sep challenge would average out at? 300m?

http://c2ctc.com/index.php?c_id=42 has the results from last time. 2800m (280m/min) is a realistic target.]]> Butch91 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:49:23 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525344#p525344 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525344#p525344 Re: The CTC Thread joe80 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:00:00 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525294#p525294 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525294#p525294 Re: The CTC Thread

joe80 - Updated September 1 2010 wrote:
November Challenge
We need to give each team the opportunity to select a challenge and, at the same time, reward teams for participation.

The simple formula is to add the number of months since a team's last challenge to the number of boats they have turned out during the month in which they win the right to select the piece. The results from August will be used to select November's challenger. No doubt, someone will put this right if I've counted wrongly.

First Column: Months from previous challenge, counting back from November '10
Second Column: Boats floated in August

19 + 06 = 25 - Rowpro Rowers
22 + 01 = 23 - Taff Attack Racing
21 + 02 = 23 - DLC Bromsgrove
13 + 08 = 21 - Free Spirits
17 + 01 = 18 - Scotland The Wave
16 + 01 = 17 - AEGON
15 + 01 = 16 - Independent
07 + 07 = 14 - Sub7
11 + 01 = 12 - Empty The Tanks
05 + 07 = 12 - Forum Flyers
10 + 01 = 11 - Paddypower
09 + 01 = 10 - Banana Boat
06 + 01 = 07 - ERG
03 + 02 = 05 - Team Oarsome
02 + 02 = 04 - MAD
01 + 02 = 03 - Age Without Limits
32 + 00 = 32 - Old Wrecks*
24 + 00 = 24 - Air Products*
20 + 00 = 20 - RAF Rowers*
08 + 00 = 07 - Million Meter Vikings*
04 + 00 = 04 - Eh! Team*

* Teams may not select a challenge unless they have participated during that particular month.

Teams that have not participated recently (e.g. Bexhill, Shawbury) are not included.

For teams on equal points, the one with the longest gap to the previous challenge has been given precedence.

New teams e.g Rote 87 C2TweetCrew will be allowed to select a challenge once they have floated a boat during three consecutive months.

Rote 87 qualify and may select the December challenge provided the team launches at least one boat during September and October

November's Challengers - RowPro Rowers

Regards,

Joe]]> Meerkats Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:45:22 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525275#p525275 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525275#p525275 Re: The CTC Thread

hjs wrote:

Meerkats wrote:Having had a go this morning, the intervals are so short that its quite good to paddle the recovery and get some of the lactic out of the legs. If you stop completly its also hard on the back so that made it a bit easier. I have to say if I tried to get the wheel spinning as fast as I could by the "0", there is no way I would have made the 10 intervals

Good fun, horrible CTC choice and good one at the same time, i'm sure we'll all be the better for it at the end of the month!!

If you can paddle inbetween there is no lactic

try harder next time :twisted:

Damned, I hate it when someone states the obvious :-D

]]> forestrower Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:23:06 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525271#p525271 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525271#p525271 Re: The CTC Thread

Liefcat wrote:
Sorry, not sure I understand your post...

I don´t quite understand the comparison with legs...

Legs 2,3 & 4 of the relay have a flying (rolling) start, hence the comparison with the rolling starts of this months ctc.

There are no world records for the idividual legs of a relay as they have flying starts and can vary in length. If Usain Bolt could do this in a 100m race his time would be faster so I jokingly said he'd be happier to help make my point. My sense of humour seems to have been a little lost on you lifecat.

In my view the challenge should be 10 starts from as stationary a flywheel as possible (I apppreciate that the 1 min interval is too short to let it come to a complete halt) with no hard pulls before the '0' is displayed on the PM much like the start of a 100m race, erg races and reps on the erg in general, not with rolling starts.

This has however been well debated now so fair enough, it's the same rule for everyone so lets just get on with it and as I've never done flying starts before it will be interesting to see what happens.

Have fun y'all.

.]]> Citroen Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:01:08 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525262#p525262 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525262#p525262 Re: The CTC Thread

Daren wrote:For anyone who follows the @c2ctc on Twitter, I think the feed from the CTC web site will be broken at the moment. Twitter have turned off basic authentication, and I didn't realise it was happening. Until I update the script to use OAuth, I assume it won't be able to tweet updates.

There's some good example of how to do that at http://apiwiki.twitter.com/OAuth-Examples

The stuff I'm using to tweet for @Sub7Feed using the API uses perl.

The OAuth change has broken my mainframe program that I was using to send tweets to @IBMLights to control the IBM Hursley Xmas tree last year. I need a mainframe version of OAuth code.]]> Liefcat Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:45:46 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525259#p525259 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525259#p525259 Re: The CTC Thread

forestrower wrote:

Liefcat wrote:
forestrower wrote:I bet Usain Bolt would like that rule for his 100 metre races!!

In team relays, all except the starting runner has a "rolling" start, so this shouldn´t be totally news for Usain Bolt...

Ah...but there are no world records for relay legs are there!!

Sorry, not sure I understand your post... Anyways, gonna answer it as I understand it...

Yes, there are world records for team relays... For instance, Jamaica with Usain Bolt has the wr on 4x100m (37.10) from Beijing.

As for the indiviual legs, there are no official records. I think that most relay teams consider it a team event. For instance Usain Bolt did the 3rd leg, because of his good technique in the curve (but not as fast as for instance the 4th leg). So my point is, that the final time was more important than the individual leg or each runner´s ego.

As for September´s ctc it is the total time one must enter, not the fastest single minut, so I don´t quite understand the comparison with legs...]]> Daren Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:40:21 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525258#p525258 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525258#p525258 Re: The CTC Thread hjs Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:02:07 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525256#p525256 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525256#p525256 Re: The CTC Thread

Meerkats wrote:Having had a go this morning, the intervals are so short that its quite good to paddle the recovery and get some of the lactic out of the legs. If you stop completly its also hard on the back so that made it a bit easier. I have to say if I tried to get the wheel spinning as fast as I could by the "0", there is no way I would have made the 10 intervals :-D

Good fun, horrible CTC choice and good one at the same time, i'm sure we'll all be the better for it at the end of the month!!

If you can paddle inbetween there is no lactic

try harder next time :twisted:

]]> Meerkats Wed, 01 Sep 2010 07:58:26 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525255#p525255 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525255#p525255 Re: The CTC Thread

Good fun, horrible CTC choice and good one at the same time, i'm sure we'll all be the better for it at the end of the month!!]]> forestrower Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:05:46 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525242#p525242 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525242#p525242 Re: The CTC Thread

Pete Marston wrote:The 'problem' on a PM3 / PM4 generally is that the timer starts right when the rest gets to zero - this isn't the case on a PM2. When you're not allowed rolling starts PM2 users are at a big advantage because the clock doesn't start till you start. So the PM3 / PM4 start is all about timing on intervals anyway, and having a rolling start just equalises these users with PM2 users.

Interesting point Pete,
I phoned C2 about the difference between the PM2 and PM4 and they said that there was a slight delay built into the 4 to allow for the fact that it's starting you whereas with the 2 you are starting it.

I still think that there is a significant difference between pulling the handle hard before the PM says '0' and waiting for the '0' to come up then pulling your first stroke although how much is debatable.

My personal feeling is that whilst the flywheel is still turning from the previous rep and the interval of 1 minute won't allow it to come to a complete standstill you should still not be pulling the handle before the aforementioned '0' and if paddling between reps then you should stop a few seconds before the start time.

Still, as long as the rules are made clear beforehand (which they have been for this challenge) then no problem, it's the same for all of us.]]> craiglindsay Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:43:58 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525238#p525238 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525238#p525238 Re: The CTC Thread forestrower Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:52 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525231#p525231 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525231#p525231 Re: The CTC Thread

Liefcat wrote:

forestrower wrote:I bet Usain Bolt would like that rule for his 100 metre races!!

In team relays, all except the starting runner has a "rolling" start, so this shouldn´t be totally news for Usain Bolt...

Ah...but there are no world records for relay legs are there!!]]> Pete Marston Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:31:13 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525216#p525216 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525216#p525216 Re: The CTC Thread Liefcat Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:53:47 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525212#p525212 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525212#p525212 Re: The CTC Thread

forestrower wrote:I bet Usain Bolt would like that rule for his 100 metre races!!

In team relays, all except the starting runner has a "rolling" start, so this shouldn´t be totally news for Usain Bolt...]]> Pantin Heavilee Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:11:28 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525209#p525209 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525209#p525209 Re: The CTC Thread I timed my model C rower from the end of an interval to complete standstill at 4 minutes a few years ago. I'm a LWT pre-geriatric, so imagine a full-bodied HWT youngster; it probably takes several days for the wheel to stop.
As a confirmed non-sprinter, I shall be resting all I can between intervals :oops:

Perhaps that should be the condition we adopt, stop rowing at the end of the interval.
PH

]]> forestrower Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:10:36 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525195#p525195 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525195#p525195 Re: The CTC Thread
Most of my interval work is done on a model c with a PM2 at the gym not on my nice shiny new E with PM 4 at home so I'll do some experimenting with this one, it'll be interesting to see if the rolling start makes much of a difference.]]> Citroen Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:53:26 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525194#p525194 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525194#p525194 Re: The CTC Thread

forestrower wrote:Why are rolling starts being allowed?

Isn't this going against the usual rule of the flywheel being stationary.

There's never been any "hard and fast" rule for CTC intervals - it's the choice of the team that selected the challenge.

forestrower wrote:What is the general thinking on this??

See: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21308]]> forestrower Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:47:32 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525193#p525193 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525193#p525193 Re: The CTC Thread
Isn't this going against the usual rule of the flywheel being stationary.

With rolling starts people will be trying to get the flywheel going as fast as possible when the PM counts down to '0' therefore a flying start.

I bet Usain Bolt would like that rule for his 100 metre races!!

I think this is cheating and gives an advantage to the gain of overall distance in the session even though there is slightly less recovery.

What is the general thinking on this??]]> debinapril Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:59:05 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525155#p525155 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525155#p525155 Re: The CTC Thread All good training.]]> Pete Marston Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:57:10 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525150#p525150 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525150#p525150 Re: The CTC Thread

strider77 wrote:I am not sure like is the right word, good training though, thanks Pete :twisted:

Not really my idea of fun, but it's one the big boys should be able to have a play with....]]> strider77 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 07:49:13 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525147#p525147 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525147#p525147 Re: The CTC Thread :-D

]]> debinapril Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:31:18 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525122#p525122 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525122#p525122 Re: The CTC Thread ]]> Citroen Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:24:03 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525117#p525117 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525117#p525117 Re: The CTC Thread

Pete Marston wrote:September's CTC challenge will be:

10 x 1min / 1min rest
Total distance covered in the 10 work reps to be entered. No stroke rate restrictions.

There is no restriction on what you do during the rest period - active rest, passive rest, rolling starts - just row hard and see how far you can go.

Thanks for letting us know. Looks like it could be a good battle between TO and MAD during September.]]> Tinpusher Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:10:56 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525109#p525109 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525109#p525109 Re: The CTC Thread ]]> Pete Marston Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:16:14 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525104#p525104 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=525104#p525104 Re: The CTC Thread
10 x 1min / 1min rest
Total distance covered in the 10 work reps to be entered. No stroke rate restrictions.

There is no restriction on what you do during the rest period - active rest, passive rest, rolling starts - just row hard and see how far you can go.]]> hjs Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:11:01 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524978#p524978 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524978#p524978 Re: The CTC Thread
The dutch Forum Flyers will have a get together next weekend and we would like to row the ctc. It would to nice be if I can scare them with a neasty session :twisted:

Ignoring the fact I have to do it myself also

]]> Matt Newman Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:28:27 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524864#p524864 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524864#p524864 Re: The CTC Thread

strider77 wrote:September is looming-did I miss it or do we not have a MAD challenge for September ?

yup I thinks that's right.
MAD to decide....]]> Andrew Jones Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:33:34 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524710#p524710 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524710#p524710 Re: The CTC Thread

john.chambers5 wrote:to darin my email address john.chambers5@live.co.uk i would like if possible to be a member of cross team challange.

Just register on the website: http://www.c2ctc.com/index.php
if you aren't a member if a club, select "Independent" as your team]]> john.chambers5 Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:21:04 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524689#p524689 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524689#p524689 Re: The CTC Thread john.chambers5@live.co.uk i would like if possible to be a member of cross team challange.]]> strider77 Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:52:55 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524681#p524681 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524681#p524681 Re: The CTC Thread

]]> Dr RowSlo Sat, 07 Aug 2010 20:32:17 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524054#p524054 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=524054#p524054 Re: The CTC Thread Not done any speed work at all since February, as I've been doing lots of 30r20's and the like.
Don't know if this helps anyone!]]> craiglindsay Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:10:35 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523932#p523932 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523932#p523932 Re: The CTC Thread :-D

However, as for my 2k time, well I'll have to guess coz I haven't done one for such a long time but i have a rough idea sloooooooow :lol:

Interesting to read about the rating thing, not that will affect me as I'll be doing it at r24, I'm in the low rate phase of training (read only just got back) and won't be doing anything sprinty until a month or so and r24 is on the very sprinty and at the moment :-D

]]> little weed Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:07:15 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523914#p523914 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523914#p523914 Re: The CTC Thread
without reading this thread i had a first go at this yesterday and managed my current 2k+1 (as rowed in last month's ctc). i currently plan sessions based on pbs+5secs as i've had a terrible 18 months in terms of regular training. maybe things are better than i thought and i should try another 2k

jane]]> NavigationHazard Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:46:38 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523911#p523911 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523911#p523911 Re: The CTC Thread
Absolutely you can rate higher over intervals than you can for longer pieces. Over three 1k repeats I would expect someone who would do a 2k at an average 30-32 spm to be able to handle maybe 34-36 spm without undue difficulty. That's six to twelve extra strokes (or more) over each 1k: you end up needing less grunt per stroke for the same pace, with only a marginal impact on in-stroke recoveries. If you're reasonably well practised at higher-rate intervals you ought to be able to raise the average rating even higher. That's especially true of the last 1k. However fast you may have done the previous 2 reps, you'll still be starting the third after a 2 minute recovery. That's not the case with the latter stages of a competition 2k.]]> Pete Marston Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:44:54 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523907#p523907 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523907#p523907 Re: The CTC Thread

NavigationHazard wrote:Cheers GB, IMO how close you can get to 2k pace on average has a lot to do with rating. It's possible to rate a lot higher overall on intervals than you would for a continuous piece. And you can do a certain amount of trading rate for pace at the end of each interval that you wouldn't do during a competition 2k.

Do you think this is the case of reps that are over 3mins longer, with such short rests? I just don't think you'd recover if you tried to rate up too much (though certainly doing so a little is a good idea) in the short recovery.

I would say that 2k+2 pace is going to be about right for this session, give or take a little. More endurance based people might be able to just break 2k+1, but anyone who gets much closer than that to 2k pace does indeed need to try harder over 2k imo.

I'm having my first go tonight with DC and ausrwr at TSS - not sure if Al realises this yet though. :lol:

]]> NavigationHazard Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:57:05 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523843#p523843 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523843#p523843 Re: The CTC Thread Graham Benton Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:39:10 +0100 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523839#p523839 http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523839#p523839 Re: The CTC Thread